mojave_wolf ([info]mojave_wolf) wrote,
@ 2009-11-07 22:23:00
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Current mood: enraged
Current music:Land of Jail, Gram Rabbit
Entry tags:democrats are as evil, democrats are worthless, devestating defeat, health care, politics, stupak amendment

May they scream in agony for weeks as all the cells in their body explode one by one
http://www.openleft.com/diary/15915/dems-who-voted-for-the-stupak-amendment-to-restrict-womens-rights

I would like to point out it's a piece of shit democrat who proposed this legislation, and 64 of them voted for it, and the rest voted pass the healthcare bill with this attached. I hate the Democrats more than I hate the Republicans right now, and have no love for any who voted for this in any way shape or form, even those who tried to do something better initially and even those who are hoping it gets removed in conference. If they all choke to death on their own feces, it will be too good for them.

As for those who actually voted for this amendment, see my title.

What is even the purpose of having a Democratic Party at this point, except to rubber stamp the desires of their corporate donors while providing rhetorical cover that convinces the somehow-still-delusional-masses-of-sheep out there that we have something even vaguely resembling a representative government, when in fact we do NOT?

I hate them. I truly, truly hate them. More than I hate Obama, who was predictable to be this awful and has hardly even disguised what he's about, and more than I hate the Republicans, who may be batshit insane and who frequently advocate flat out evil, but who are at least upfront about what that they are trying to do. But all the democratic leadership who have given all appearances of being sane, willing to pass a not even good healthcare bill that will effectively gut abortion rights (and in general not cover a lot of women's services, as covered extensively at reclusive leftist and tgw and corrente and various other places) more than. the Republicans have ever managed?

Oh, wait, but at least they've been good for the environment and stopped the onrushing police state W started and ended war and . . .

Seriously, all of them. ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO CAVED ON THIS . . . and by caved I mean gave this cover by voting for it at all or even who refusedto denounce in absolutely vicious terms their fellow congress people who voted for this ebola virus of a bill . . .

The Democratic Party as currently constructed is a worthless heap of diseased Cheney vomit.

Please refer to my reference to the inverted totalitarianism discussion. If we aren't totally there yet, we are close enough, and unless people wake up, we might as well be. And if this doesn't wake a majority of democrats up and they are stupid enough to follow the msm and hail this legislation as a good thing, then it really is hopeless, war is over, might as well sit back and watch the world rot to death.

See here for quotes from *before* this dipshit amendment passed:
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/11/04/a-year-later-world-suddenly-gets-what-pumas-were-talking-about/#comment-35449

So it turns out that the Democratic-sponsored health care reform bill will officially treat women as unpersons: freakish beings whose bizarre, non-human needs cannot possibly be considered part of basic health care. Perhaps we’re extra-terrestrials:

None of the bills emerging from the House and Senate require insurers to cover all the elements of a standard gynecological “well visit,” leaving essential care such as pelvic exams, domestic violence screening, counseling about sexually transmitted diseases, and, perhaps most startlingly, the provision of birth control off the list of basic benefits all insurers must cover. Nor are these services protected from “cost sharing,” which means that, depending on what’s in the bill that emerges from the Senate, and, later, the contents of a final bill, women could wind up having to pay for some of these services out of their own pockets.

As for abortion, no fucking way, Jose:

The bill also prevents affordability credits from being used to pay for abortion coverage; the credits would help middle-class and working-class Americans purchase insurance coverage on the private market. Eighty-seven percent of existing private insurance plans cover abortion, which is significantly cheaper and less medically risky than pregnancy and childbirth. After reform, if insurers want to continue to provide such care, the House bill would require them to segregate all government funding from the co-pays individuals pay into the plans. Abortions could only be paid for out of the “private” side of the ledger.


That was *before* the Stupak amendment. Which made things exponentially worse. And I was otherwise having a good day yesterday, until they apssed that on Saturday night hoping no one would notice. The hell with them all.

Those who voted for this amendment, primary them, and if that fails, you might as well vote for a Republican in the general if they get out of the primaries, because while they will almost certaintly be as bad, they can't be worse, and this will get the evil shit out of the party for which their is faint hope. (see, here: http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/stupak-amendment-passes-64-dems-ask-for-primary-opponents/ )

Or, alternatively, a real 3rd party that is actually liberal, and leave the dems alone forever in the pile of ashes they have made of their party.
Anyone who has money and free time and hope who cares at all about the future of the world should start investing in such a thing now.




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[info]misanthrope1
2009-11-08 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I'm with you. I was a Democrat until just a few years ago. Screw them I vote Green all the time now or write in. Fuck the Demopublicans and Repubcrats.

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[info]mojave_wolf
2009-11-09 05:38 am UTC (link)
Same here, though I only started voting more green than dem in fall 2008. Before that, mostly dem even tho independent, and before that, dem.

And yes, the hell with them all.

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[info]anaisninja
2009-11-08 09:06 pm UTC (link)
To hell with the Trojan horse administration already. I'd say shoot the thing in the head and put it out of its misery, but what the hell would come running out next? Not much different from the last one in office, except this one got the popular vote.

There's a whole lot of people who love their country and civil liberties - firearms and reproductive rights included - and nary a candidate representing them. Could a new Bull Moose party bring the oldschool conservatives and ex-pat democrats together, I wonder?

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[info]mojave_wolf
2009-11-09 05:47 am UTC (link)
That would be an interesting try. I've seen various people mention third parties, but none from this angle. Octogalore is far too economically conservative for my tastes, but might want to check out her blog, or Corrente (tho they tend to be across the board liberal, including on gun control) or reclusive leftist or (despite my many problems with them) The Confluence or even (way too conservative, period) New Agenda, all of whom are making noises about this. And I'm very willing to look at any places you can suggest.

And go you! There are so few other progressives that are pro-self defense, including pro-self defense w/guns, it's nice to meet another one! (here's hoping you weren't being sarcastic in your post, heh)

Yeah, whether we can topple the empire or not, I don't see any alternative other than to try, unless we want to disengage from politics entirely. Treating the dems as if they actually favor traditional democratic priorities or are at all on the side of their voting constituencies clearly is NOT working.

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[info]don_fitch
2009-11-08 11:29 pm UTC (link)
I don't think there's even the chance of a snowball in hell of a Third Party gaining the Presidency or a majority in Congress. Or that, in the off-chance that one or both happened, it would make any real difference. The plain, basic, and immensely sad fact is that the American People pretty consistently elect the candidate who spends the most money, so we can expect to continue to get "representatives" who are enormously beholden to deep-pocket Campaign Donors -- mostly Corporate groups -- and the vast majority of our Government Officials are going to continue to act in their interests, rather than in the interests of the ordinary People such as ourselves. I think the technical term for this is "Down The Tubes", as far as the American Political System is concerned.

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[info]mojave_wolf
2009-11-09 05:36 am UTC (link)
You might like this: http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/11/fuck-you-act.html

Also, I think, finally, that whether there's a chance or not, it has to be tried (the only other option being co-opting the dems from inside, which before this year I felt was the way to go, and still felt as recently as a few months ago, but not anymore, and that may not work either). If you're being crushed by a giant boulder, you try to push it off you or you die. You may die anyway, but might as well give survival at least a shot.

And if all we do is peal off a few % and cost them an election or two, maybe that will change things. (and yes, i get the risks of letting the crazies take over again; the dems are indeed marginally less bad and less likely to kill us all right away, but they are taking us to inevitable disaster and getting worse as they go, so something must be done, unless we just want to quit trying entirely).

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I share your disgust.
[info]papananook
2009-11-09 08:27 am UTC (link)
" unless we just want to quit trying entirely"...this is where I am beyond decrying the warsa out of habit and outrage. I fuckin' give up and doubt I will ever vote again in my life. Unless, by some miracle Kucinich or someone like him is a candidate. Fuck this insane system and the sheeple who let it happen.

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Re: I share your disgust.
[info]mojave_wolf
2009-11-10 07:27 am UTC (link)
As long as I live, I think I will be unable to help myself from trying, simply by reflex and outrage, but I certainly understand the impulse. And fully agree w/your last sentence.

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