mojave_wolf ([info]mojave_wolf) wrote,
@ 2008-10-09 13:30:00
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Entry tags:election 2008, presidential politics

Who to vote for?
So, I was all set to vote for McKinney and the green party. First all woman ticket, first all person of color ticket, and for all that I'm not entirely on board with their platform, one of the only two liberal/progressive choices available, and I'm *still* pissed at Nader about 2000, along with getting a general feeling that he's in this more for notoriety than to accomplish anything.

Now, McKinney turns out to be either someone with horribly poor judgement, just plain batshit crazy, or both:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/mckinney-accuses-government-slaughtering-prisoners-dumping-bodies-katrina/

(yeah, I know, questionable source and all, but this story doesn't seem to have been fabricated by them)

So, what am I left with? Of the two major parties, I still view a Republican victory as the best possible outcome this time (for reasons described previously having nothing to do with Republican policies), but really don't want to vote for that party or those policies. Nonetheless, I had about made up my mind to do so in response to the tactics used against Palin (though I haven't fully discarded the McKinney option yet) when I saw this:

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/10/ralph-nader-calls-out-bill-maher-for.html

Like the author of the post, I waited *years* for someone to do that, before I completely gave up on watching Maher (I think his absolute worst example of sexism was when he suggested girls pulling up their tops at mardi gras had no business complaining if they were raped; that was probably when I quit watching, however long ago that might have been--it was *years*; I restarted briefly for a few months and quit again for similar reasons)

So, Nader back in the running. I shall decide which of those three options later. Not that it matters, as none of them are going to win.

PS--there has been yet another round of "opposition to Obama must be rooted in racism" bullshit. If anyone thinks that is why I'm not voting for him, or that McKinney as a second choice to Hillary is insulting to African Americans, please let me know so I can drop you from my f-list. Seriously.


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[info]papananook
2008-10-09 11:15 pm UTC (link)
I've been gettin' those pollster phone calls and told my son to tell them what I do--I'm writing in Frank Zappa/Abbie Hoffman because they are more alive to me than any of the candidates...seriously.
What a farce! (that's my answer to all of your extensive analysis. Methinks you think too much but then people say I'm too emotional, so...WTF, neh?)
Votin for Nader is prob'ly the best way to piss off the Dem establishment, tho. Not a bad Idea.

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[info]mojave_wolf
2008-10-09 11:50 pm UTC (link)
oh, wow, the poll phone calls. I got one that was so obviously trying to get people who weren't for Obama to say something that they could construe as racist. Probably, even though I objected to the idea that any racial group could be singled out as having particular characteristics of trustworthiness, when I finally gave in to pollster persistence and gave all races a "5" on the trustworthiness scale, I fully expect that the poll will take my "5" rating to try and show "former Hillary supporters who are not supporting Obama only rate blacks as a '5' on the trustworthy scale, thus showing racist tendencies", ignoring that I gave whites the same score, or that at that time I had pretty firmly made up my mind for McKinney.

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[info]mojave_wolf
2008-10-09 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Also--why not vote for Zappa? Or anyone else. Maybe we should write in our own names. Or Godzilla. Or something.

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[info]papananook
2008-10-10 12:57 am UTC (link)
I'm fuckin' Dead Serious, Wolf! I'm writing in Zappa/Hoffman (abbie)...they're more alive to me than Obama or McCain. When I make my vote I'll be singing "Yellow Snow"..."Watch out where the Huskies go and don't you eat that Yellow snow, Nanook!" Or maybe "Motherly Love"! If I had any extra money I'd do a Yippie and throw some one dollar bills around like Abbie and Rubin did at the NY stock exchange, since it's really GREED that is at the root cause of all our problems.

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(Anonymous)
2008-11-01 04:27 pm UTC (link)
I don't know... after researching McKinney and seeing all the amazing things she has done I can let that slide. I don't believe our government is incapable of doing something like that, but I do think it was poor judgment for her to tell this story with so little in the way of information. She's a champion of voting rights, grilled Rumsfeld about employing companies that traffic women and I like that she questioned from the beginning how the US could have done a better job protecting us from 9/11 with the information they had known. After seeing her stand up for people and being willing to question (and paying for it when she lost her seat to open primaries) I just can't let that statement impact my vote.

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